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 Post subject: 2 Kings 17:34
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:49 am 

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"Unto this day they do after the former manners: they fear not the LORD, neither do they after their statutes, or after their ordinances, or after the law or after the commandment which the LORD commanded the children of Jacob, whom He named Israel," - Jewish Publication Society 1917

The problem is that the third person plural possessive case (their statutes, their ordinances) is out of place. It does not occur in the Peshitta but does occur in the Masoretic and Septuagint. The Septuagint does not contain the negative adverb (not) and gives us yet another unique and bumbling version, most likely due to a dittographical error.

"To this day they were acting according to their judgment. They fear and they act according to their statutes and according to their judgment and according to the law and according to the commandment that the Lord commanded the sons of Iakob him who name he made Israel." - v.34 New English Translation of the Septuagint 2007

Some have used based critical dogma upon these verses, and so a clear and consistent version is needed. Were they really being criticized for not following their own statutes and ordinances, or YHWH's statutes and ordinances? The Peshitta brings crystal clarity and consistency to the whole passage.

"To such a degree today that they are divorced to YHWH and they do according to the customs of the ignorant, their first customs, the abominations of the pagans, and they do not fear YHWH, and they do not according to the covenant, and according to the judgements, and according to the customs, and according to the commandments that He commanded, YHWH to the sons of Yaqub Whom He named the name Æisræyl," - Peshitta

This is now consistent with the following verses precisely listing the same covenant, judgements, customs and commandments of YHWH, in the same order.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 Kings 17:34
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:40 pm 
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Shlama,
Thanks for sharing this Yeremyah.

To this day, for having left Mar-Yah, (and having done) according to the custom of the nations and not having reverenced Mar-Yah, or (not having) conform(ed) to the Covenant nor the Law, nor according to the ordinance of Mar-Yah, which He commanded the sons of Jacob, who became Israel by name [or, 'whom he named his name Israel']. (2 Kings 17:34)

Somewhat related, the book "Foundations for Syriac Lexicography" by Beryl Turner, Dean Forbes, and David G.K. Taylor, has an interesting note on this verse:

"If the essence of the use of a double object with this verb is that one thing is 'made into' or 'changed into something else,' then it is not so much that Jacob as 'named' Israel - as would have been the case of the verb )rq 'called' had been used with 'name' - but that his name, which was already existence, was 'made into' or changed to 'Israel.' The Peshitta here used the denominative verb 'to name, call, denominate; give a surname, take or assume a name,' thus also missing the point of the Hebrew valency pattern" (International Syriac Language Project, Society of Biblical Literature International Meeting; Published by Gorgias Press LLC, 2006. ISBN 159333138X, 9781593331382)


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